The Full Circle: Linking Songs with Musicians & Friends

Toy Parlour Talk Touring With Don Broco, Brighton Music Scene & Create Their Full Circle!

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Toy Parlour are absolutely smashing it right now and have a big future ahead of them! Fresh from touring with Don Broco, to performing at The Great Escape in Brighton, showcasing the most incredible up and coming bands, to recently releasing their new incredible single Love Me, vocalist Ren, guitarist Ben and one of their bassists (yes they have two bassists!!) Travis, are the very special guests on The Full Circle this week!

We talk about how the band met and juggling with two bassists, which works incredibly well live and in the studio! They also share some great fun facts about themselves, answer some tough Would You Rather questions, reveal how they got to support Don Broco and plays a lyrics quiz called "Toy Parlour or Toys Out The Pram" (naming quizzes are not my strong point), where they have to guess if the lyrics are their own or another band or song has the word toy in it.

They also create their Full Circle, ranging from Biffy Clyro to System of a Down! 
Playlist for the songs: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3AQAZEk01o9kez8YxjP1qN

Check out Toy Parlour's new song Love Me here: https://open.spotify.com/track/0uQEZ6ADEFM98OOsDplzJc

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SPEAKER_02

Hello, my name is DC. I am the host of The Full Circle, a show where we link songs together with the last song, linking back to the first song, hence completing the Full Circle. This week I had incredible musicians Toy Parler on the show, including vocalist Ren, guitarist Ben, and one of the bassists, Travis, on the show. Yes, you heard that correctly. Toy Parler have more than one bassist. Hear how they managed the dynamics of having two bassists, how they got together, how they managed to get the gig touring with Don Broco, and what they learnt from that gig. And of course, they create their full circle, which features songs that have influenced all the band members, with a playlist for the songs in the episode description. They've also just released their new single Love Me. Please do check it out anywhere you hear your music. It's an absolute banger. Thank you for checking out this week's full circle. Without further ado, here's the interview with Toy Parler. The Full Circle. With DC. I have some very special guests on the Full Circle today. They formed in 2025, previously being in two different bands, and in that year they released three incredible singles, Say Something, Lose It, and Dead Inside, and have just released their new single Love Me, which is another absolute banger. They are immense live and have recently supported Don Broker and have had a very bright future ahead of them. An absolute honour to have on the full circle. They are Toy Parla, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Hey guys.

SPEAKER_03

Hey man, thank you for having us. That was a very lovely. Well, a very nice intro. Thanks.

SPEAKER_02

No, my pleasure. No. Thank you so much for agreeing. It's great to have you on. How are you guys doing today?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, pretty good, man. Pretty good, pretty chill.

SPEAKER_03

Really good. Yeah, I'm just glad it's uh end of the week. Ready for the weekend.

SPEAKER_02

What's your typical weekend like?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, at the moment, not much because pretty pretty broke since the tour, but probably just chill out. Hopefully, it's nice and sunny. Like we all live, us us three anyway, we all live in Brighton. Um, so if it is nice and sunny, then hopefully, I don't know, go go outside, touch some grass, touch some pebbles at the sea.

SPEAKER_02

I was about to say, because I went to Brighton. The last I've last time I've been in Brighton's actually been a couple of years ago. And all I remember is, yeah, the pebbles, the pebble, the pebble beach.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a bit of a pain, but no, it's it's it's nice, it's nice. We all love living here. Um, and in summer, like it's it's great. So yeah, I don't know what you guys are doing with your weekend, but I'm through chilling, I think. Yeah, same thing.

SPEAKER_04

Just chilling in the sun, hopefully.

SPEAKER_03

What you what are you gonna do with your weekend, Deb?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, this weekend, I so tomorrow I am going to see and in the evening, I'm gonna see Anshakari. Oh, wicked, man.

SPEAKER_03

Is that with Native James or is that tonight? So I know Anshikari do a couple shows, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Native James are tonight. I think that's bankrupt. I don't I can't remember who's supporting them tomorrow at at the one in in London. And then sat and then Sunday, I'm going back to Coventry because that's my football team.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, no way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And I don't know how big a football fancy you guys are, but we won the league on Tuesday, so tomorrow is the uh Sunday's the the trophy lift.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, amazing. That's gonna be so great.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm from I'm from Coventry. So oh what? Yeah, yeah. I grew up around the corner from the Rico.

SPEAKER_02

Oh wow. Small world.

SPEAKER_01

Small world.

SPEAKER_02

Are you a Coventry fan, Ben?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I I grew up in more of a rugby household. Um, mum and dad had some very uh strong opinions on football. God knows why. But uh yeah, yeah, I'm I'm glad to see I'm doing well. I've got lots of friends who are very, very happy.

SPEAKER_02

Ren, Travis, are you you football fans?

SPEAKER_04

I'm a big football fan, but uh I grew up as an Arsenal supporter. So so far this season was really good and then has very kind of intensely dropped off the past yeah month or two.

SPEAKER_03

So Travis and I, we live together and I'm not as into football. Like I appreciate it, but I kind of just I enjoy watching when you're watching, just supporting any other team that isn't Arsenal, just because I find it really funny. But I I think it's a great sport. I just yeah, I've never really followed it or supported a team.

SPEAKER_02

Fair enough. No, that's fair. I mean, I live pretty close to Emirates, so I'm about a 40-minute walk. So I'm very looking forward to going to that game next season. And I hope Arsenal do win the league. I know there's some people that are anti-Arsenal, obviously, if you if you're not an Arsenal fan, but I but I hope they do win it.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like it's better for the neutrals that it's not City again for the millionth time. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like it just makes it a bit more interesting if it's just anyone else up from City.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's just a shame that yeah it looks uh I could be wrong, but it's looking like it could be Man City again. It's not it's not looking good right now. It's really not looking good right now. Oh dear. Look, we're gonna, we're gonna, you guys have created your full circle and we're gonna go through that in a second. But actually, what I want to hear, I mean, you've already shared a few facts about yourselves, but are you able to share? Are you guys able to share a fun fact, maybe? I mean, all this stuff's quite fun, but are you able to share a fun fact about yourself that's quite quite unique and interesting that you've probably never shared before?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I have one IMDB credit to my name from when I was 14 and worked on a folk festival documentary, and all I had to do was hold a boom mic for like an hour a day, and that somehow has given me an RDB credit.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna piggyback right off of that, and this isn't what I was gonna say, but you saying that has just triggered this in my brain. But last year, it was either last year or the year before, and I was looking for work and I was really, really bored. So I registered myself as an author on Amazon and created like like gen, like genuinely, like if you look if you look my name up on like Amazon, it comes up. But I've I basically created a really it's a really rubbish like template for like a like a planner, and I did it in an hour, whacked it onto Amazon because they do like this print to order thing, and I was just like, that's gonna bring in the big bucks. I was I was like, that's gonna that's gonna sort me right out. I did one, and then I just thought this is ridiculous, and just never did it again. Did anyone buy it? No, no, absolutely not. Uh, not even your family. I don't think I even told them. This will be the first time they're hearing about this that I'm technically on paper and author.

SPEAKER_02

What's it about?

SPEAKER_03

It's literally, it's literally like um like a planner, like a diary. It I literally I upload there was a there's a way I I feel like I'm plugging Amazon. There's a way to um basically if you if you write books or if you create anything that you want to be printed, there there's a service where uh someone would order it and then they would print it for you. So like it's not like we're we're living in a room with tons and tons of books. It's like if someone you know fell on it online and ordered it, then Amazon would get some money and I'd get some money, but nobody has touched it. Obvious reasons. Because I literally I was like, how quickly can I make something and then put it online? And I did it in an hour, it got approved, which is crazy. And then yeah, I got like an email through being like, Oh, congratulations on your first publish, like your first published book. So that that's my that's my uh thing, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

I mean that I mean that is fun. I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe now you've shared it, maybe, maybe there'll be a few sales now, fingers crossed.

SPEAKER_03

I hope not, because I think I'd have to refund every single one because they're not good. I wouldn't buy one. It was purely like uh can I can I get some money quickly just to like feed myself and pay rent because I was like in between jobs, but don't need to worry about that now because I've got a job. So that's thankfully, thankfully, no one needs to buy those books.

SPEAKER_02

It's like the most bug ever. Fair enough. I mean, I might put a link, I might put a link in the episode description, who knows? That's why I find a lot. I'm gonna do all my power to hide that. Ben, can you be um Ren and Travis's?

SPEAKER_01

Not so much like a hare-brained scheme trying to make money, but uh being from Coventry, I had a bit of time in like I did a couple of sessions with the bass player from the specials. That was probably my like fun facts, but no, I didn't I didn't get paid for that or can't plug Amazon in any kind of way.

SPEAKER_02

No fair. No, I mean that's a cool one. I mean, specials, I mean, obviously they've got a very a very great association from Coventry and Two Tone and all that stuff. So yeah, so that's I mean, I really appreciate that one as well. Travis, tell me about tell me about your I am tell me about what you had to do then.

SPEAKER_04

So it was um a tiny, tiny little festival in Suffolk called Folk East, which is really, really sweet. Like all the bands are lovely, everyone's really nice. But my dad volunteers every year to work it as like a camera operator for like the headliners and like a couple bands before. Um, so I used to go every single year and it was really, really lovely. And then one year, I think it was a mate of my dad's was like, let's make a documentary all about the festival, let's interview the fans, let's like tell the story of the location because it was kind of in like the kind of fields around this big like country house. And then basically I got paid in ice cream, right? Uh, and just literally followed them around for like a couple days with a like a boom mic, just kind of like holding it over people's heads. And I don't think I was very good at it because I was a kid and I was really short. So I was trying so hard to lift it like comfortably out of shot, and it was just it was problematic. Did you did your dad ever invite you back? No. There we go. So clearly was a great at it, but IMDB doesn't know that, so I just I have the credit and it's there.

SPEAKER_02

They know it now. Yeah, it's true. I mean, getting paid in ice cream is not a bad shot as well. Your shoulders must have been. How were your shoulders after doing that?

SPEAKER_04

The sugar rush got me through. The sugar rush powered me through. I didn't notice. Also didn't sleep for like a week, but that's it was worth it.

SPEAKER_02

Fair, no, fair. I mean, I mean, yeah, I think, I think, I think that's fair. And who knows, maybe, maybe after maybe if people hear this, they might, you know, they might ask you to to do that in the future. Who knows? Who knows?

SPEAKER_04

I'm I'm taller than I was when I was like 13, so I can actually hold it above camera high now. So just putting it out there. If you need me for the job, I'm there.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice, very nice. Excellent stuff. Right, let's uh let's let's begin the full circle. What's the first song then that you've chosen? Oh, actually, before yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, tell tell us the first song, but also tell us like, is there like a theme for the full circle or or the reason that you've chosen these songs?

SPEAKER_03

So for our full circle, we tried to go for songs that we'd firstly that we'd all pick and songs that resonate with all of us, um, including the other two that aren't on the call. So we've gone for songs that basically explore like our musical journey from like inspiration of being really young to now, and our time meeting and like discovering the bright music scene, and then to where we are today, I guess, is like uh how we write and how we view songs and other bands, and I think that's probably oh yeah, it works. Yeah. Then I don't know if there's anything else you'd you'd say, but I think that's sort of like where we went with it. Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_02

What's the first song then that you've chosen for the full circle?

SPEAKER_03

So the first song we've gone for is Midlife Crisis by Faith No More. That's an olden but golden tune, is what I will say. Great song. I was very much wanting to have Faith No More in this mix because for so for me, I I was very, very lucky growing up in that my my parents, like the first festival like gig that I ever went to uh was download in 2009, so I was 10, which is like it's just ridiculous. It like what it's just crazy, but like I remember so so well what like Faith No More were one of the headliners, and just watching them and watching Mike Patton just like absolutely storm the stage, and like it was so sick. And then I think just the the real when we all started hanging out, the realization that Ben, you're also a big Faith No More fan, and like we bonded over that, and yeah, so for me it's like that kind of childhood influence of just thinking they're just absolutely insane, but also like I think we were saying when we were like thinking of this list, we were saying they're such like um like a melting pot of different genres and like so individual in their sound that like it's something that we all admire to a bit, like they don't follow any any rules, it's sort of their own thing, and yeah, that's what I'd say.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's so it's so varied, but they're like sound is so fundamentally like them at the same time. Like you kind of you could hear any of their songs and within like 20 seconds go, oh, that's obviously if they know more track, uh, which is a really hard thing to do when they're clearly sort of like touching on so many inspirations, so many different genres and influences. It's really hard to sort of like narrow that down and still make it quite cohesive across like whole albums.

SPEAKER_01

For me, it was one of the first times, like because like you know, like all of us in this band we've you know known each other for a while, but like just before like the idea of this band the starting up, I think Rent, you were in my room, like we were we were just chilling out. I was just like that's really weird one. I've just really been I've been watching like the the the download 2009 headline slot of uh Faith There More, I've been really getting into them, and you just like oh they're like my one of my favorite bands, yeah. And I I think it's just like I think that happens quite a lot with us where someone will sort of just go down a rabbit hole and be like, I've just like checked out these guys, like or like oh, I've been really getting back into these, and there's like oh I also absolutely love those guys, yeah. Like um, I remember what happened with Four Year Strum with you, Trav. Yeah, like I came over to see you guys, like four year strum came on, I was like, Oh, sick.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you've been it's just been really fun. When you're saying just now, I'm going off on a tangent, I apologise. But when you were saying just now, like there's loads of stuff that you know that uh one of us might hear and bring to the band, and everyone's like, Oh yeah, no, we already love that band. Something that just like ping pinged my head was um Rory. There's been so many times, but I think you've done this as well. There's been so many times where you guys have suggested a band to me. And over time, dude. All the time. I'm literally like, I'm literally like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll give, I'll check them out. Like, that sounds cool. And then like a year, a year later, or like a couple years later, I'll go to them being like, guys, have you never heard of this band? Like, this these guys are amazing, and then I always just get told off because you guys are like, you tell me all the time, like I would love something, and I just think I just ignore, ignore everything. It's painful, is what it is.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, it's all it's always those as well that end up being like your favorite bands, yeah. Yes, I swear I I can't remember like Ocean Grove. I remember being like, oh, check out like someone be like, check out Ocean Grove. Yeah, all right. And then like a year later, yo, these guys are sick.

SPEAKER_02

I want to hear about hear about you guys. I want to hear a bit about the bands. So I know that you thought you came from two separate bands and then formed Toy Parlour. So what did you Ben? You're from Coventry, Ren and Travis. Are you guys from Brighton then?

SPEAKER_03

I am, I'm from around here. I'm from a town called Maidenhead, which is near like Reading, like Reading Windsor kind of way. Um, so not that far, like a couple hours away. Sure.

SPEAKER_02

So how did you all get to sort of know each other? Like, how did you sort of meet?

SPEAKER_03

It's it's a weird one. So Ben, Travis, and I were at uni and we were studying music. So us I thought we all actually met a uni. And Rory, he he had already finished education, but he was basically running a like a coffee shack like on the the grounds of where our uni is. And he was at the time he had already started Beach Riot. So I think when we started uni, he was like this really, he still is, but this really cool guy. So we were just like every day annoying that you know him as much as possible and just trying to be friends with him. Um, I I was anyway, and he's gonna watch this back. It all were, yeah, it all really were. He's gonna watch this back and laugh because I really just irritated him like every day, just being like, oh, like, oh, can I come and like watch you guys play shows? But like I think just as time went on, we we all started doing our own things in terms of music. We ended up playing gigs together. So Travis and I were at a band called Nala. Ben was in a band, Brighton band called Peace and Protest. So he was in another band, and then Rory and Johnny were both in Beach Right. There were just because of the Brighton scene and just how big it is, there were so many occasions like in this in the space of a few years where we'd all play the same lineups together and share shows. And obviously, we've got the Great Escape, which is the festival in Brighton, which is basically like a takeover of all the venues. So there's always the opportunity to hang out and play gig play gigs with each other and just like have a really good time. So I think that's sort of like where it came from.

SPEAKER_04

And we also we played with each other, like in each other's bands as well, because you sessioned for Beach Shire, the True World 2. Rory was Nala's live guitarist for us, yeah. For uh for like six months or so. Like we already all kind of cross-pollinated and played together in various formats prior.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and yeah, so with Ben's band Peace in Protest, you you guys finished maybe I can't remember how long before we did.

SPEAKER_01

It might have been like a so that that was sort of during just at the end of like lockdown that ended that that sort of ran its course. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was a bit of a free agent for a little bit, and then Ren came to me. This was a little while after, it was like, Look, I'm doing this thing with Rory from Beach Right. Do you want in? And I was like, Yeah, sure. Sounds good. You showed me like 30 seconds of a demo, I was like, Yeah, sounding. But then that initially was just gonna be like a sort of little bit of a side project, bit of fun. Yeah, and then eerily, like Nala came to an end and Beach Right came to an end, like within like it was based within I think it was within like a few weeks, maybe a couple of months of each other.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was it was weird, and it it all of it was for like good reasons, it just it's just it just both bands just run their courses, and then yeah, obviously we we then just all in it seemed like well why don't we just like make a big group together so it's five of us and have some fun. Then there was the uh double, the two bass two bass two bass debate.

SPEAKER_04

So Rory was bass for beach riot, uh near the end of beach riots kind of time, and then I was obviously the bass player for Nala the whole time. So then when we said, Oh, let's let's just blend the bands, uh neither of us would back down as to who would be the bass player and who would just like take up like a second guitar or something. So we kind of like fought over that for a bit, and then we're always like, Well, let's just have two then. Like, I'm not gonna give up, you're not gonna give up, let's just let's just do two basses. And I was so against it at first.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I remember I remember very stubbornly, I was just thinking, like, this isn't gonna work, Clive. I I I I remember thinking, like, yeah, like we'll give it a go. But in my head, I was thinking, there's no way you're gonna make this happen. But you both spend so much time crafting your tones that like I remember we went into rehearsal, like um, a rehearsal space in Brighton, and you guys plugged in, started playing. I think I remember literally giving better look of like, oh my god, like it actually works, but I can't I can't say anything because I've been you know, I've been saying, nah, there's no way for ages. It's that yeah, it sounds wicked, it's so good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because I I remember being I I was sort of the last to sort of find out that we were gonna give that a go. Because I I I think it was it was like Brighton Pride or something. I'd come down to meet you, Ren, somewhere, uh, and you were like, just a heads up, Nala's broke up. Oh, all right then crazy. But you were like, but Chav's gonna join in with what's going on with this unnamed project. I was like, uh, okay, cool. So what Rory's playing guitar then? You're like, no. I was like, ah, okay, cool. Yeah, let's see how it sounds in my head. I was like, oh god. This is gonna sound awful, but uh yeah, same as Rent, very pleasantly surprised with what's come out of it and uh the sounds that were coming out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, fair. Because that is something we when we saw you guys live and when you guys saw Dog Roku at the garage, we we were there, me me and my partner and my sister and my friend, and we clocked that. We we I must admit, I wasn't aware like until until we saw you guys. And we're like, hang on, you got guys two bassists, and it and it works, it actually works. I mean, usually, like, my understanding is that there are a lot of there's been a lot of bands who have been trying to get rid of a bassist and just and just work on work on programs and stuff like that. So for you guys to have two bassists, and to make it work like that, I thought that was so cool.

SPEAKER_04

It's such an interesting idea because it's more of like a relearning how to write parts. Because bass forever bass is you you have one bass in a band, or it's all on backing track, or it's all Like synth. Um, so we've kind of had to almost reteach ourselves how to write bass parts in a way that's sometimes more melodic, or just finding the right times for one of us to drop out and the other one to sort of take over. But then we spend so long crafting the two bass tones where they're kind of they they can they can stand on their own two feet, they can exist in their own world. Um, but then the second we both play like a unison rift together, it's not just mud. It'd be so easy for it to just become mess and just low end. We spent so much time crafting that and then focusing on how we can kind of bounce off each other part wise. I think we we have now found it. That first month just demoing and just messing around, we won't talk about it. It was a bad time. It sounded awful, um, but we've we found our feet is working. And we just think it just it's just fun, I think. And it's nice to have something that no one else is really doing right now, as well. With so much variety and like in sort of the alternative rock scene already, it's nice to have something that makes us that a little bit different.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I I think as well, like on top of that, it it's adding to the having to sort kind of reapproach a lot of stuff, like those two play it learned bass, like writing bass parts, and like even like with my guitar parts, it's I am having to like really think like right, because you've got you know, you've got Trav who's like really subby, low, thick stuff, and then Rory where it's way scratchier, more effects-driven kind of stuff, sort of sitting side by side, and then with guitar stuff, it's like right. Uh, because I I in my bands I played rhythm and like sang at the same time. Like, I was never really much of a lead player, but like having to go into this sort of being like, right, I've got to fill a space that the other two physically can't get to, but there's not a whole lot of point me going down and like doubling up with those because there's already two bases doing that. Yeah, I think with the two bases thing, I think we were really conscious of not just doing it for the sake of doing it, but really taking the time of being like, right, we gotta if we're gonna do two bases, we gotta get the most out of it rather than just because you know there would be there would be people that sort of see it and go, Oh, they've got two bases, why what have they done that for? They didn't sound any different. I think we put a lot of time into being like, we have two bases for a reason, they have their roles, I think, become quite an important sonic footprint for us.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, definitely. No, no, no, that's no, I'm really glad to to hear that and I'm glad it's working. And and you know, it sounds, it sounds like it's working as well from from you know from the songs and performing life. Who I mean who I do you guys sort of like split it into who does the songwriting or is does one person take the lead? How does the songwriting process work for you guys?

SPEAKER_03

So this I think this was an early worry for me because from all of our previous projects, so with Nala, I did a lot of the writing, you're chip in on the lighting with Beach Riot, Rory did a lot of the writing with Ben's band, Ben did a lot of the writing. So it's when we started, I there was the worry in my head of like, will it feel like too many cooks in the kitchen kind of vibe where there's too much going on, there's too much noise, and we can't get anything down. But again, it's one of those things where it and I'm not just saying it, but we it did just happen so seamlessly, where we would fire demos over to each other, we'd give like opinions if we wanted to change anything, and no one got like offended or upset by it. And then there was a couple of weekends that we all spent together, and we something that was new for all of us was because obviously you've got software's like logic and pro tools and stuff, so writing at home and then just firing stuff over is so normal. Like actually being in a room together, we we've and and just writing on the spot we've never done before properly, and that's how we ended up writing Dead Inside, which was the release that we brought out in uh like October last year, which was crazy, it came about so quickly, and I remember us all thinking, like, oh wow, like we we can actually just all like work together, it not be too stressful and not too uh difficult, and Johnny as well. So, Johnny is based in London, he's the drummer, and he he writes parts and he has his own little setup. So, like typically Ben or myself or Roy would send over some sort of idea. Johnny um would then you know get his drums down on it, and then we'll slowly but surely build it to whatever it could be. Yeah, that's how it feels for me. I feel like it all works very, very well.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice. No, it sounds like it sounds like you guys have got the formula. I mean, yeah, I guess when you're from two when you're from different bands and you say different songwriters, and there's a bit of a concern, but it's not it sounds like it sounds like you know you all complement each other quite well. I think it's fair to say.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, luck luckily so. I mean, I think it helps that we kind of all knew each other on like very well and personal levels prior, even though we hadn't all necessarily worked on a the same project at the same time together. We all knew each other well enough to go, okay, I reckon you're gonna be really good at this, you're gonna be really good at this. Let's just like not step on each other's toes and find the right times to all input the right thing. It all came very sort of naturally, so we all had that kind of soft understanding in the lead up, anyways.

SPEAKER_02

Sure, that makes sense. Okay, look, I've still got so much questions to ask about the band and just touring and everything. But I want to hear the second, I want to uh no, what's the second song that you've chosen for the full circle?

SPEAKER_03

So the second song is a song called Antiseptic by a band called Tiger Cub. So they are a Brighton-based band, and they're a band that we all love very, very much. Um, Antiseptic is one of their earlier songs, but for us it's kind of a it's kind of a shout-out to like what we've been mentioning with like the such a strong Brighton music scene and how we all start sort of started to integrate into this kind of like alternative scene in Brighton and get to know each other. And yeah, like it's such a DIY like grungy song. I mean, you you love this song.

SPEAKER_04

I love this song. I mean, I think for us, like Brighton's music scene is so sort of it can occasionally be a bit of a bubble, but everyone is so supportive of each other, and like there's so many bands trying to make it work, and everyone is so sweet about it with everyone else. Um, and I think what Antiseptic really sort of encapsulates is the kind of DIY attitudes, which is such a big thing in so many like venues in Brighton as well, and there's such a big independent scene here, away from any sort of major labels or major kind of groups. Um, so we really wanted a song that first and foremost fits within like our genres that we know and love and the kind of scene that we were all part of and are still part of now, but also just that sort of rough and ready, like it doesn't sound like it was recorded in the most expensive studio in the world. It's just it's gritty, it's a little bit sexy. Um, like everything about it is just so perfect for what it's trying to be.

SPEAKER_03

And I what something I like is like, and it's not necessarily that song, but like you said, like it doesn't sound like it's like done in like the most expensive like studio. I I feel like that they've just released their what is it, their fourth album, third album, fourth album, and they were starting to sound like more produced, which was still great, it still sounded great. But this new album, I feel like it's gone back to that sort of vibe, even though the songwriting's very different to like those anti-sep those antiseptic days, but like it's sort of got that vibe again. So I think you know it's something that they're like also aware of, and I just I love that, I think it's really cool.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice. Tiger Cub, Antiseptic, the second song on the full circle. And just that just just curious, do you think like Brighton, like why do you think there are a lot of do you think do you think Brighton has a lot more like independent artists or independent musicians compared to other other places in the country? Do you think Brighton's got that sort of vibe about it?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I I think Brighton is just a very sort of like very kind of free and like liberal city, and it's just as a as a whole city, it just it feels independent. There's so many independent shops and cafes and groups and everything like that. And I think it's just woven into the nature of the city that people like to try and do their own thing that is true, away from any sort of major groups, and I I think it's such an eclectic space as well.

SPEAKER_03

Like you've got so many different genres that are popping off. Like, there's a really good hardcore scene, there's a good alternative scene, there's a good like acoustic scene, folk scene, there's a bit of everything. And I think I think in terms of the UK, the the cities to me that would compare to it are obviously obviously London is huge, and it's there's so many artists there. But other than Brighton, I honestly think it might be like Manchester, maybe, maybe Bristol, but I don't know like mu musically what Bristol's like. But yeah, there is something very special about it down here, yeah. I'd say.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, kind of going back to the sort of like very anything goes kind of city. Yeah, I know I remember when I first moved down, that was the thing that first got me coming from Coventry. Just sort of you're walking down the street and you most days, you're like, I've never seen that before in my life. Probably never will. I remember leaving the my house for the first time and seeing the naked bike ride, just like right, okay, no warning. I think that kind of sums up what kind of city Brighton is. And then because it's just so it's so small, and but so much is packed into it, you you can't really avoid just yeah, everyone's quite in tune with what's going on, it becomes uh like a bubbly but in a nice way, in that like, yeah, as Trav said, everyone's really supportive of every what everyone's doing, uh you know, wanting to see everyone succeed.

SPEAKER_03

I think on the top of that as well is that I I don't know if uh how many times you've like been in Brighton deb, but it like even though it is it is like a big city, it's I think it's tiny, yeah. It's so small. So like even though there's so many bands and stuff like you're going to bump into anyone and everyone to look so we're we're in Hove, which is like one end of one end of uh Brighton basically, but to like to get to the other end, it's it's not even that long a walk. Like it's it's really not that big. Um, so I think it just goes back to that vibe of like it's actually it actually is quite a small space, but because there's so many musicians, just everyone's got each other back, which is quite nice. Oh, that's very nice.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, no, I've I've only been to Brighton once and I really enjoyed it, I had a really nice time there. And hopefully hopefully I'll be going there a bit more often. I should go, it's so easy to get on the train to Brighton from from London, and um definitely will be going there for the football as well. But but Ben, I just I just want to ask, are you are you basically saying that Brighton's better than Coventry? Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_01

It's very different. You could you can get away with stuff down here that you wouldn't get away with up there, but uh it's always gonna have a place in my heart, Coventry. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep my mouth shut, I think.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean you're being polite. I think as as someone from Coventry as well. I mean, Coventry, I love, you know, place in my heart, grew up, family's still there. Unfortunately, there's just it's not it's gotten better since being city of culture, but I just think there are so many of it. I mean, there's a reason I haven't been with the Coventry since since I left it.

SPEAKER_01

It sounds so harsh to say, but yeah, no, I was just yeah, it it it it there was a time a little while ago walking down the high street, it was like what what has happened here? Just so much has shut down, but yeah, I think it's on the up again.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say, I think things are gonna get better, and I think with with us getting promoted to the Premier League, I think that's gonna generate a lot of interest, a lot of buzz, a lot more money going back into the community. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, look, I want to ask you guys how like like so. How did you get um how did you end up talking with Tom Broker then? What happened? How did you get that sort of gig?

SPEAKER_03

Honestly, so much luck, yeah. And we're we're all huge fans of them. So for us, we it was sort of it was every day was kind of like a pinch me kind of thing. And we none of us none of us believed it until literally like the day of the first the first night. Like even though we'd announced it, we'd put up the poster, we were like, this isn't happening, surely. Like, there's no way. Like, I've literally I've been listening to them since priorities, and that that was what like 12, 13 years ago. Yeah, and I think I remember thinking, like, if I had told myself then, like, are you gonna be supporting them in 2026? I would have lost my mind. It's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04

We're just um we've had some communication with um cyberfor, the guitar player. Um, I was chatted to him a bit prior. Um, and then when we saw they they announce the like outstore like run of shows, we got Rory to send him just a little text going, like, hey man, any chance there's any space for us on like just even the Brighton show as like a local band. And then Cy crazily replied to him, Oh, don't worry about it, man. Like, I've already I've already put your name forward for the whole thing. And we were like, That's mental amazing from him. But I think just because it was um for them, it was smaller venues, which is what I think why the fans like had such a good time over all those shows because for them it's for smaller venues, but um, because of that, they were able to sort of take a gamble on us, you know, they didn't need to bring in anyone to sell, you know, like a million extra tickets or anything like that. They had the opportunity to bring a band that no one really knows yet on a run with them, and we're just very grateful that they sort of took that punt with us, really.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I do want to say, like, there's always whenever you're gigging with a band that you love or you're touring with a band, like there is there is the back of your mind thinking, what if they're like not actually nice people? Like, you you you do get people in the industry that aren't nice, but they are I I I like I mean this truly, they're arguably the nicest guys like I've ever met. Like every night they were so lovely, they were so accommodating, and like even though we're a very new band, they they treated us like a like a proper, yeah, proper band, and just like yeah, they were really, really lovely. And I would I think we'd all say the same thing. Like, it was the most seamless first tour for us. Yeah, like we've all had we've all done gigs before that have gone terribly for whatever reason, could be tech or something wrong with the you know, venue or whatever, but it just it it went so smoothly that like each night I think we were thinking something's gonna go wrong at some point, and it didn't. It was it was great. Apart from leads.

SPEAKER_01

Well, uh do you know what? Even saying that, yeah, with Johnny's kick pedal going, things were things were going so smoothly that it happened, and we were like, this is fine, we can sort this. Whereas like you know, we've definitely played gigs where like something less dramatic has happened, and we're all like, oh no, what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for context, Deb, like in at the lead show, um it was it was a venue that I'd never heard of before, but I loved it. It was called Project House, and it was basically like a converted warehouse, basically. That's how it felt, like it was a new build kind of thing, but it felt like a warehouse that had been done up for a venue. And it was it was amazing. Midway through the set, Johnny's uh kick pedal, the like I don't know how, but the metal, like the chain on it just completely snapped. And he literally he screamed, like he screamed behind me, and I literally was like, I'll know what's going on. And um, he just ran off stage because he and I was like, I don't know what's going on. So I had to basically banter with the crowd a bit. Obviously, first time in leads, just trying to be like, I don't know what's going on. Like we're gonna have to cut the set short. But again, this is another testament to uh the Don Rocco guys, but their um Matt and their tour manager was instantly sorted joining up with another kick pedal, and he was back on stage, and like we were able to finish the set and like still play all the songs like we didn't have to cut short or anything, which was like amazing. And I remember coming when we went off stage, there was a security guard who looked at me and basically just went a laugh and put like I and like literally just like pulled me over to him. And I was thinking, have I done something wrong? And he he literally, it was really lovely, but the way he said it, I was like, I'm not sure whether I should have been scared. But he was like, I can't believe you got away with that. I have seen this crowd throw bottles of God knows what at the bands before for much less. And I literally was like, I was like, Oh, thanks, thanks, man. Just like I just want to chill out now, I don't want to think about it. And he was like, Yeah, you he he literally said you got away with murder on that one, and I was like, Okay, then it was like it was like a pat on the back, like, but you guys were really good, well done. And but I was just like after that, I was thinking this could have been so much worse. Like, so much worse. If people started throwing stuff, I would have been so stressed out because we were obviously playing in like because it was such time quick turnovers between us and Don Broco, their stuff was already on stage. So if people started throwing stuff, I would have been I would have felt so bad. Yeah, yeah. But no, it was it was yeah, it was great. And like Ben said, even though there was that issue, which arguably is quite a big problem, it felt really chill, yeah, which was crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Which was your which was your favorite show out of all those gigs, and why was it the garage in London?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean, um, for me it was the garage in London. Like it was it was between I said this as soon as we got off tour, that it was between the garage and the Leeds one. I think just the Leeds one because it was such a like a cool experience. We'd never been to Leeds, like even just visiting. So, like exploring and having this really cool venue, and even though that issue happened, all that sort of stuff. But with the garage, I'd never been there for a gig before, which is shameful to say, because it's an awesome venue, and so cool. Honestly, like the crowd was great, it was really, really busy, it was at such a good end to the tour, in my opinion, and we all played like really tightly, even though like we were really tired from like the rest of the tour. We yeah, I I mean I feel like we, you know, pulled it together, got there, played a really good last set, and um it was just a really good end to a really great week for me. Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but uh it probably was my favourite of the five shows.

SPEAKER_01

I I think I I'm I'm in a similar space as you, like Leeds was great because you know, a thousand people, really cool venue, perfect day. But that London venue, we were so we the gears were well oiled at that point. The night before we'd all managed to get back to our own houses and have a nice, decent night's sleep, ready to like appreciate doing it one more time. The crowd were really, really responsive. Because I think regardless the size of any crowd you're playing to, if you're not like headlining, you're aware that you are sort of selling yourself a little bit, you you basically be in a billboard for yourself. And then I think the London one was the one where like most people I think really responded to that and they were really into it. Because like, you know, like the other shows, you'll be, you know, we'd be stood at the merch at the end of the gig, and people would come by, buy a t-shirt, it's like, yeah, that was really cool, nice one. But the London one, people coming up, like, hey yo, that was so sick! Oh my god. We're like, Whoa, nice one. Cherry on top moment for me. I know Rory really, really liked the Liverpool date because that was like 400 cap little sweat box. That was really cool.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice. I mean, you've I mean you've made, I mean, obviously, it sounds like a very successful tour. You've made a lot of new fans, myself included. Yeah, it sounds like a lot of people have reached out to you and and you know thanked you. And yeah, I mean you must be very, very happy, very happy from the outcome of that tour.

SPEAKER_04

I think on like it just the lineup just worked. I think I think sonically were quite similar bands, and you know, sometimes you go to a gig and like all the bands are really, really good, but you kind of like go home afterwards and you're like, that was just a really rogue choice for an opener. Like it was great, but like they weren't necessarily the right sort of fit for that lineup. Yeah. I think sonically, we kind of really fit in with Broco. Um, so I think he just really worked as a sort of setting people up to have the craziest hour of their life with the Broco boys afterwards.

SPEAKER_03

And and to that as well, like it's something that I didn't realise would be a thing, but Don Broco obviously, they're such a big band, but it's to the point where like they're they're being talked about on like Reddit. So someone sent me a link of Don Broco thread on Reddit being like, Oh, who are the like who this who will the supports be for this tour kind of thing? And like if you go down, someone I think it was after the Brian show, but someone was like, Oh yeah, it was these toy pilot guys, they're actually really, really good. And I and I remember thinking like, oh thank, thank God. Because like if if if I if after the first night, if I would have started reading like anything on like Reddit or like TikTok or anything, being like these guys sucked, I would have just been like, Oh, great. But no, it was five more days of this, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, all I've seen, yeah, all I've seen is positive, positive stuff. I mean, you you all the posts and all the all the comments have just been so complimentary, and yeah, deservedly so. And and I'm looking forward to to to see. I mean hopefully hopefully will there be a headline tour or something coming up at some point or at some point.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think this year. I think I think this year will purely be support slots. Um but uh a headline is something we definitely want to do, but we want to we want to make sure we've got a set full of songs that we like we we know are gonna resonate with the crowd and that we're super happy playing. Like we don't want there to be any filler tracks of any sort, I think. I mean you never know, there might be a head there might be a one-off this year, maybe. But in terms of a headline tour, probably next year. I reckon.

SPEAKER_01

Let's say like I think I think with everything being so expensive at the minute, like putting on a headline show, you've got to really make it worth the people's time and money. Which really I think was always the the case, but uh even more so now. Get a couple more songs out this year, get a bit more of a firm footing, I think. And then put books and dates in that you know are gonna be like real, really good nights rather than you know, like you don't want to leave people thinking, uh that was fine.

SPEAKER_02

You know, definitely. Well, better to wait and and and do that than then you know rush it and like you say, you know, it doesn't go as well as you like. So yeah, so so super excited for for whenever that happens. Right, what's the third song that you've chosen for the full circle?

SPEAKER_03

The third song is I Hope You Hate Me by a band called Dead Purt Society. It's huge, it's huge, such a huge track. This is this is more just like a song that we all we all absolutely love, and it's it's a band that we all love. And I think when we started started this project, um very early on, and we we had the two like the two bases were locked in, we and we started songwriting. Uh, one of the big things was like, right, obviously we've got our our own influences, but who who do we sonically want to be like? And I think Dead Pearl Society were just was just one of the bands that just kept coming up because they're great. I don't know if you've listened to them before, they're but they're fantastic. Like they're they're they've got a like a swagger, they're like heavy but kind of sexy and melodic, and it's all it all just comes together really nicely.

SPEAKER_04

The riffs are just huge, especially in this song. The riffs are massive, and I think with a lot of their tracks as well, especially this one, their vocal stacking is so so good. And as a band with four vocals along the front row, you don't see that like that frequently anymore where people stack a million and one harmonies on top of each other and it lands perfect every time, yeah, and they have got that down to a science.

SPEAKER_03

This is kind of a a bit of a influence, like for something that I want to try and do as well, vocal-wise, just because he's got such he's got such a great voice and he can really hit those like high notes. Like he gives me a sort of similar vibe of um like sort of like Connor from Nothing But Thieves, like that sort of really clean and poppy vibe, but over like heavier instrumental, it just works so well. Yeah, every song is a hook, you know, every song is a hook.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh yeah, I think for that uh Dead Poet Society, like because I think I think the reason I was like, Yeah, definitely need to get them involved is because like the guitar work is so so cool. Because I I can't remember whether it's a seven string or a baritone, but I I I believe either the whole thing's fretless or just like the the lower thick strings are fretless. You just get some gnarly sounds out of it, like a proper dissonant slidey sort of riffs, and I I think now more than ever, like hearing something unique from a guitarist and their tone, I think it stands out so much, and I think it leaves such an impression. And they have on me at least, like they just sound killer. Like you you can hear like three notes, you're like, I know who they are, because like of those like key key points.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice. Yeah, no, I've not actually listened to them, so and it's the way you describe them, sounds like sounds like definitely a band I probably probably quite like. So, yeah, so Dead Poet Society. I hope you hate me, the third song on the full circle. Right, I'm gonna ask you some would you rather questions if that's okay. But would you rather perform just to your friends and family in a in a in an intimate venue or perform in a massive arena supporting your favourite band?

SPEAKER_03

Massive arena, massive arena arena like every time. What are you gonna say before I make a point?

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, I've played plenty of rooms where it's just friends and family.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I think I think for me, uh yeah, one of the things I've played the friends and family a lot. I've played some gigs where it has just been like a couple friends of just your dad. Just my dad. Um I think I think for me is like even going back to the Donbroco tour, like Brighton was the first day, and I love playing in Brighton, but there's still that element of like you know some of your friends are in the crowd, and like like they've seen you so many times. So if you mess up, they're gonna know, and they're gonna be they're gonna be making faces at you and like stress. Like, I I would probably get more stressed out. And the idea of just the idea of playing in arena, like in any in any sense, is it would be amazing.

SPEAKER_04

There's always such a fear when you play in front of your mates of like doing anything embarrassing. Yeah, a a room of total strangers is just so much more liberating, and I think subconsciously you take more risks on where you're running around or like what you're doing with your hands. You know what I mean? Like you just take more chances on your performance because you know you're not gonna be bullied about it relentlessly afterwards if it just doesn't look as cool as you think it does. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I I remember the sort of relief because the the first show after the Brighton show was Oxford, and it's like no one here knows who I am, like I could I could I could do anything, and I don't have to explain myself afterwards, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

No, and I think for me is like with Nala, I was guitar and vocals, so like with with this band, it's the first time I've not had like anything to hide behind, I'm just singing. Like when you mentioned like what are you gonna do on stage or whatever? Like I sometimes I know I look like an idiot sometimes, but it's like what else am I supposed to do? Like, I'm just gonna hop around and just have some fun. But doing that in front of friends, they're gonna look at me and be like, what are you playing at?

SPEAKER_02

Fair, no, that's fair. I just didn't know if like you know, having performing in front of lots more people might be more anxiety provoking, but yeah, no, I completely get it. Who would be your okay, what if there was one band you could you could support, who would it be?

SPEAKER_04

Ooh, I mean, it's I grew like growing up was such a huge like Allison Chains fan, and that influence is still massive to me. And I know it's a bit different now, the different vocalists, also just for the fact that they're a bucket list band I've not even seen yet. If I could get away with playing with them so I could get a free ticket to one of their gigs, I'd be content. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Well, for me, it's gonna be no surprise to you two, but I growing up already, yeah. You already know what I'm gonna say. I'm a big, big muse fan, and I know that's like such a such a like it is such a basic one, and it would there would be requirements of like certain that they're only allowed to play certain albums. I've I've defended, I I've defended them for so so long, and I can't remember which album it was, but there was one where I was just like, no, I feel like I've been defeated. I can't, I can't, I can't keep this up. I still love them, and you know, their new stuff's pretty cool, but there is like that what one of the shows I went to, it was like a charity event thing at Shepherd's Bush a few years ago, and it was a request, it was like a request set list kind of thing. And I thought, ah, like they're gonna play like the hits and then a few of you know what people have voted for, but the entire set list is just like deep cuts and early songs, and I I think I might have gotten a bit teary at the end of the show, it was incredible. So my mine would be muse, it would have to be certain songs though, not big.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I think for me, Gut Answers Nine Inch Nails, it wouldn't work, it would be a weird gig, probably get bottled, but oh, that'd be so sick. Big, big fan.

SPEAKER_02

Nice, three very different bands. Yeah, yeah. I yeah, I went to Back to the Beginning last year and I saw Alice in Chains. So that was they and I've had a I've got a soft spot for them and they're good. Muse are a band that I wish I I'd seen live. Not not saying they're not at their peak now, but maybe like you say, like maybe like more the black holes and revelations days, especially when I that was that was the album I really really enjoyed. Um and Nigel Nels, another great band. I uh yeah, so yeah, no, fair, fair. Would you rather be known worldwide for one hit wonder but nothing else, or have a hard crew hardcore group of fans but never be recognized elsewhere?

SPEAKER_01

So I think I'd go I'd go hardcore group of fans, unless the one song that we're known for was a Christmas song.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna say the same thing, I was gonna say the exact same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Time to Ross Toy Parlour, it's Christmas time, baby. Like, yeah, 100%. I I I my answer's the exact same as Ben's. So fair. I feel I can't argue at all.

SPEAKER_02

That's fair. I hadn't even thought about the Christmas thing. Like, how come you haven't recorded a Christmas song yet?

SPEAKER_00

Oh well, uh here's the scoop. We're uh that's our next our next single to Christmas there.

SPEAKER_03

No, I don't think I don't feel like there's like as many like really good classic original Christmas songs now.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So maybe maybe we need to do one. Yeah, maybe we need to fill that void.

SPEAKER_02

I I loved it when um killing in the name got Christmas number one that time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was good.

SPEAKER_02

That was 100% and then yeah, and then I don't know if you remember, they went they went on like five live and they just played the version completely explicit. They did it live, completely explicit, and then five live, like stop them, stop them, buy the other record, and it was just so funny. Um yeah, I enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_01

It it's it's and looking back on that, it's amazing how just like skipping a little bit of research can make things go so wrong. It was like, oh, I did this new band, Rage Against the Machine. Yeah, they definitely went swear.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean they say it in their lyrics, I won't do what you tell me. Like, you know, that that should have made it very obvious. Okay, last one. Would you rather listen to one song forever or any song but once only?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, any song but once only. I think I would go crazy if I listen to one song forever. As much as I have like my favourite songs of all time, I can't I can't even do it like two times in a row, you know what I mean? It has to be like once a day max. Um, I would I would just go insane, I think, if I could only listen to one track. Unless it was like a do you think of any examples where it would be fine? And you like Green Day have those like nine-minute tracks, which are like a million tracks cut up into one soul, which maybe that's slightly better, but even then, I don't know. I don't think I could hack it.

SPEAKER_03

My my only issue is that there's so many songs that I would be gutted to never hear again. But you're right, I would I would I would go insane.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's like listening to the same playlist over and over again at work every day. You know what I mean? Even that is like a struggle.

SPEAKER_03

Try working in retail, literally. Yeah, literally, yeah, literally they're like anyone who works in retail, like I used to work in retail, you you know you're getting the same songs every day for for months on end. So yeah, maybe, maybe just because of that point, actually, any song but once, yeah, I reckon.

SPEAKER_01

I I think I think, yeah, definitely agree with you guys. Because like even even with like films and stuff, I'm so bad for being like, like, I'll be sat at home with my girlfriend and she'll be like, oh, we should watch this. And I'm like, oh no, I don't want to watch that. Oh, why not? Oh, we watched it like three and a half years ago. Like recent.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think that's the right answer. But what would the song be if you can only listen to one song only?

SPEAKER_03

I've I thought about this when you asked it, and I think for me, it would have to probably be Weird Fishes by Radiohead. Like it'd have to be like a chill, like nice song with like loads of layers, loads going on, but it's just like I think I think that's one of the like one of the perfect songs for me, anyway.

SPEAKER_04

I see that in a in a similar vein, and also the kind of like chill thing. Uh, the song River Man by Nick Drake is such a beautiful, beautiful, like acoustic ballad, and you kind of get lost in the guitar part anyway. So I like to think if I could listen to that on loop forever, I've been so lost into the transitions, into the really fluid playing, I wouldn't even necessarily notice it restart. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Fair.

SPEAKER_04

Ben, what about you?

SPEAKER_01

I think I'd go completely the opposite and pick something like animals as leaders and try and ascend to a higher form of being. Get on another plane of resistance.

SPEAKER_02

Fair enough. No, sounds sounds great. Okay, thank you so much, Francis. What would your song be? Yeah. What would my song? Oh, I was trying to trying to end it before you asked.

SPEAKER_01

Uh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

For me, for me, it's I think probably the song, the song that comes to my mind first is a song that I don't really skip when it comes on my playlist. So it's like, well, I probably won't get sick of it. It's um a song called Minor Thing by Red Lock Chili Peppers.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I I really like that song. I really love the guitar solo as well that John Fanti does in that one. There's just something about that song that I just really like. And it's not like it doesn't, I don't get yeah, it doesn't make it like you say, it doesn't I don't get sick of it. Like it's just one of those songs that I could just have it on in the background. It's a bit of a chill song, but also makes me feel a bit happy when I hear it. So yeah, so that's probably why probably why I'd go for that one. Strong shout out. Very fair shout. No, thanks. Okay, cool. Thanks for answering those all your other questions. What's the fourth song you've chosen for the full circle?

SPEAKER_03

So the fourth song is it's Biffy Clyro and it's that golden rule. When we were thinking about the the songs we wanted, I think Ben and I we both were like, Biffy Clyro has to be in there. And that golden rule, like, I I think it was probably one of the first songs I heard growing up when like uh Only Revelations came out, it was probably on some sort of like Kerrang channel or something. Yeah, but it's just that it's just the fact that like the last two minutes is just this epic instrumental, it doesn't get boring, it's so sick, and it's so well put together, yeah. And like that whole album is just incredible, and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

For for us, it dropped in like for us three in particular, it dropped in our like prime, like early teenage years, where you're like so wanting to latch on to something cool and a bit different, and I think that biffy album just is was that for all of us, really like it's the right level of experimental, but not like a too experimental that it's like it's gonna scare you off as someone just discovering what you're into musically.

SPEAKER_03

There's some pot bangers on that album, and again, the riffs are heady, and that's yeah, and the song, like even the chorus and like just the the rest of the track is just so like fast hitting, and like the energy, like you can feel it in the track, and I know that sounds a bit yeah, you know, but it's true, like you you like it feels like such a good song, and like we're s so we're seeing them uh live at their July, was it July 3rd with um yeah Princey Park Iowin with Nothing But Thieves and Marmazets, and I'm so excited because I've seen Ting before and that song live's incredible. Yeah, after this, if they don't play that song, I'm gonna look like such a schmuck, but honestly, it is it's so good.

SPEAKER_01

I I'd be very surprised if they didn't.

SPEAKER_03

It's just a great live song, yeah, and I think that's something that we want to try and take from that is kind of having that energy and that sort of thought out those thought-out riffs and melodies, getting everything synchronized so well that like you can feel it in the track, you can play it live and have fun with it. Um yeah, and like again, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're quite a big big biffy fan, aren't you? Yeah, massive. Top three of all time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Arguably I think one of the best rock bands to come out of Scotland, definitely. If you want to include the United Kingdom in that, I would also agree. Yeah, I I think uh especially like that Golden Rule, it was like one of those that ended, it it was like a proper seminal like moment, like haw. You didn't you I didn't know you could do that. I didn't know that was allowed. And it's just is I think it's pretty timeless, and I think it's a testament to if you believe what you're doing and you put put your role into it and it's different enough, it ends up being timeless. Like I'll listen to that record now, and it's what like 20 years old? And like you can't, I don't think you can say the same thing for a lot of like rock records because I think times move so quickly, but I timeless, I think, that band.

SPEAKER_03

No, I I I do agree, they are timeless, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, fair. I only saw them live for the first time this year. They're at the 02, and yeah, they're really good, really enjoyed them. Yeah, so Biffy Clira, that golden rule, the fourth song on the full circle, and one more song to go, but before that, I've got a lyrics quiz. Forgive me for the name. Uh it's called Toy Parlour or Toys Out of the Pram. So uh okay, so three lyric lines. Uh two are Toy Parler and one is not Toy Parler. So I've done it, I've done it for each song just to make it a bit easier.

SPEAKER_03

The reason I'm stressing out is because I'm terrible, I'm terrible with our own lyrics anyway. Like early on, some of our first shows, I was forgetting everything to the point where like I had to spend some hefty time just like really getting it ingrained in my brain. But I'm gonna try my hardest on this.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I am sorry then. But um the other the other thing to add is the odd one out is either a song that has the word toy in the title or a band that has the word toy in it as well. So so I don't know if that will help, but but just just to keep with a toy theme. Right, so this is from say something. So again, I've made it easy I've tried to make it as easy as possible, so don't want you to fail. Yeah, I don't want you to get it wrong. But obviously it'll be good if you do. Now you said it. First one, stay alive, I don't know what to do. The second one, I hold the weight of the whole world on my shoulders, and then the third one, run away and take away my hearts and things I said.

SPEAKER_03

I do know the answer to this one, but I'll go last unless you just no um I don't it's the say the second one is not ours. Yeah, I I was when you were saying it, I was like, I've never used the word shoulders. Um yeah, that second one definitely not ours. The first line from the chorus and the third line is from the pre-chorus. Yeah, yeah. See, I'm not I'm not stressing as much now. I'm now thinking, oh, I do know the songs. Weirdly, on tour, I remembered everything.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think it was just stress time. Yeah, yeah. Fair, no, fair. The second one, yeah, you're right. Mm like Toy Soldiers. That's where that line's from.

SPEAKER_00

Brilliant.

SPEAKER_02

So good. Okay, next one is lose it. So, which one's the old one out? Wasting time, now I'm drunk, I feel it. The second one is chasing, erasing, you make me feel lost. And then the third one is it's all in your mind anyway.

SPEAKER_03

So the odd one out is the third one, it's all in your mind anyway. But that's a I like that as a lyric. I and it sounds like something that I would try and slip into a yeah. I don't know who did that, but it's definitely the third one, is the one out for sure. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're right. And that's by a band, don't know if you heard of them called Shiny Toy Guns. No, I don't know. No, no, they came on my Discover Weekly like a little while back, and that song, I just like that song. I was like, oh, this works well for the for the for the lyric. And I thought and I thought that's what I was like, this sounds like a line that just could be in the song as well. That's why I thought it was a good one to put in.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. It really, really does. I might I might check them out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're gonna give them a DM. Just be like, Okay, so last one, dead inside.

SPEAKER_02

So these are the lyrics. Okay, so first one, your pretty face in a mirror. Second one, I read my horoscope, it tells me where to go. And the third one is you're needing all the light.

SPEAKER_03

I know which one it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first one isn't ours. First one isn't ours. But there was there was a moment of hesitation where I thought that could have been ours, and then you said the other two lines. I was like, Oh no, okay, it's the first one.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice. And yeah, that's from uh that's from Foo Fighters Your Favourite Toy, which I think they've just released a new album, haven't they? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03

out today yeah it's recently came out but they don't recently are but i haven't i've listened to i think i listened to the first single i've not listened to the others yeah well at least check check it out yeah yeah that was i went to see them at the shepherds bush um a couple of months ago that when they when they did this in person thing and yeah i think they i think they did that one live yeah no you did i knew i knew you'd be fine and you'd be absolutely fine proud of you mate thanks thank you no i'm proud of all of us because uh we all knew which is good because you both were so sick i think i think ben looks a little disappointed that that you didn't that you did what being honest it it would have been more morbid curiosity as to what would have happened and how much we would have rinsed you if you'd have got any of them wrong yeah it's true all right let's wrap things up what's the what's the last song you've chosen for the full circle so the last song for us is BYOB System of Down oh um in terms of making it like a circle we basically looking at Faith no more and then being sort of you know having their own thing going on and that sort of blend of genres System of the Down was another one that came to mind and just their the the different parts that make them who they are and they're so unique and there's such an influence to all five of us I'd say like we all love them. Like they're one of my all-time favourites I just think they're incredible and you specifically like like suggested BYOB because of the chorus right like yeah it's like the chorus of BYOB is just the the rest of the song is just chaos.

SPEAKER_04

The verses the intro are just utter chaos and then suddenly it just drops into the tightest most staccato chorus with these beautiful vocals these like stunning harmonies and it just it grooves it just really really grooves and like that something that we that kind of grooviness to a tight riff is something that we tried to integrate into the new single Love Me. And like with the chorus we kind of have it as a big open riff and then the second half we drop it like right down it becomes tight it becomes clean there's a bit of rhythm to it disco B and it's it's a disco B yeah and it's something that I think system do so well across the board anyway but specifically the BYOB chorus is like the prime example of chaos into the most pristine tight pop chorus kind of you've ever heard.

SPEAKER_02

Very nice.

SPEAKER_01

Ben what are your thoughts I I think the the running thing throughout all of them to be on all the songs we've picked is like just uh if you're confident enough in doing something different and you pull it off it it will stand the test of time. Like system there isn't another band that sounds like system. And at the time there wasn't another band that sounded like system when they were like popping off like yeah they sort of get brought into that new metal camp but you think of the other big bands in that area and you're like no sound like system. I remember you know first hearing Biffy and first really checking out of Faith and more and sort of I had like an idea that they were quite eclectic but really diving into it and then you know um they're poets with the fretless seven string Riffy stuff and like nothing sounds like that. Like I mean we try to but I think it's you know what I think a lot of artists do like write what you know and don't be afraid of doing something that's like really weird because it can pay off really well oh for sure oh and yeah Sister Madan I absolutely love them.

SPEAKER_02

I'm actually seeing them at uh is it Tottenham the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium later the summer I'm also gonna be there I'm very excited like yeah it's gonna be the best which day which day are you going? Are you doing the Monday or the Wednesday one?

SPEAKER_03

Let me have a look because I it's one of those things where you know like getting the tickets for it was so stressful or just clicked on whatever we could I am coming on the the 15th the Wednesday okay fair enough yeah we're doing the Monday got it I was gonna say there's you know meat there kind of thing because hello yeah yeah well look I mean it's gonna be a great gig it's gonna be a great show I've never seen them before um but yeah it's gonna be awesome and what a way to complete it.

SPEAKER_02

BYO B system of a down the last song on the full circle hence completing the full circle yay oh incredible stuff incredible stuff thank you so much for coming on it's been it's been a pleasure it's been an honor and I really appreciate your time thank you I've really enjoyed the chat was there any parting words that you wanted to give the full circle nation before we wrap things up firstly thank you for having us and this has been a great experience for us and yeah I've I've loved it I know I attempt to waffle and just jabber on but this has been really great yeah no just uh stream the new single please we would appreciate it yeah and come see us live yeah please please uh and yeah hopefully we'll catch catch you again soon yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely oh thank you thank you so much um I wish you guys all the best take care yeah see you later you too take care how incredible were Toy Parler such top guys loved the chat I have actually had the honour of meeting them since we had a really fun day out in Brighton and it was just amazing amazing to meet them they're really top guys and I really really hope all the success in the world for them. Thank you for checking this episode out please do give them a stream on Spotify or anywhere you listen to your music their songs are so so good and if they come near you please do check them out live they're incredible live I'm so glad they managed to get that gig with Don Broker because if it wasn't for that I wouldn't have found them and I really hope many people can discover them like I did. Thank you again to anyone that supports the Full Circlet however way you do it whether it's listening to one show, all the shows somewhere in between. If you're able to leave a rating that would be amazing if you can leave a comment that'd be incredible. It gets more outreach and it allows me to bring guests on who I want to speak to and who you want on as well. I always end the show in one way it's to do with my Hindu background you don't have to do it you can if you want to if you do do it let me know if you don't do it you can let me know but I'm probably not that fussed. Remember this stay safe don't eat beef